Jeff announces the launch of our new twitch channel
Daniel talks about attending Rose City Comic Con and meeting Weird Al and Tim Curry.
In a new fanboy behaving badly, the boys talk about an
example of a female twitch streamer standing up for herself when being talked
down to for being a woman on the internet. Check out
https://www.twitch.tv/cahlaflour/ to show her support.
Jeff talks about seeing Ghost in concert.
In movies the local Drive-in showed Terminator 1 and 2 for
the close of the season.
Daniel talks about seeing a special showing of Lawrence of
Arabia on Seattle’s best screen.
The boys take on the Spider-Man cinematic custody battle.
Thoughts on the Joker movie.
Jeff has started watching Carnival Row and Dark Crystal: Age
Daniel has read Memory called Empire by Arkady Martine.
Daniel tell of his adventures at Rose City Comic Con and what Peter Mayhews laugh sounds like
Dicussion of the business aspects of celebraties attending conventions
Jeff laments not being able to get out of the theater and instead talks about recent horror movie night watches including High Rise, Psycho Beach Party, and Young Frankenstein, whichs leads to some discussion of Blazing Saddles and what could have been castings.
Jeff talks about the Tick pilot and the history of the Tick in various different media.
Discussion of the Luke Cage Series (the episode was recorded prior to the series release so it is all speculation)
The inclusion of Ghost Rider on Agents of SHEILD.
Daniel talks about being on the final season of Penny Dreadful on Netflix, and the recycling of props vs actioning them off.
Jeff’s talks about the anticipation of the new Season of Supergirl.
Talk about shows that appear to be expansion of plots from single episodes of other series.
The casting of Designated Survior
The possible legal issues faced by No Man’s Sky.
Jeff laments his lack of time to read.
Daniel has read the Non-Fiction book Grunt by Mary Roach.
Daniel talks about the musical he is rehearsing for based on the work of Aleister Crowly.
Jeff discovered two new podcasts: The Billy West Podcast and The West Wing Weekly.
West Wing Weekly let Jeff to discover the Justiceforvets.org
One of the most noticeable factors about this year’s Emerald City Comicon is the attendance numbers. It was a recorded breaking year of approximately 64,000 attendees, which was the maximum the Washington State Convention Center could handle. For the first time ever, the convention sold out, with all three day passes being gone about two weeks before the show, and only a handful of day passes available at the door, which were sold quickly. I heard people on the floor saying that it is now the third largest comic convention in the country. This is explosive growth for the show, which only drew 20,000 attendees in 2010.
Clearly there are several factors that play into this. As the show grows it is able to attract higher caliber guests. It also benefits from a good reputation amongst pros, with many saying it is their favorite convention of the year.
But I think another factor may be at play, and it involves San Diego Comic Con and its attendance issues.
To explain this theory I first need to explain the parallel that a friend alerted me to.
This came to me by way of my friend Matt. Matt carpools with me to work every day, formed the writers group I belong to, has worked with me for over a decade, and is my proof reader / editor for my articles here. He is also a ten year veteran of Burning Man.
For those not in the know, Burning Man is an annual event that takes place in the Black Rock Desert in Nevada. It is an Art/Alternate culture/self-expression-driven event that requires high levels of attendee participation. It started an explosive growth in the late 1990’s that lead to it reaching a max capacity of approximately 56,000. In 2011, for the first time, it sold out before the event. The 2011 sell out included all discount tier tickets selling out in half a day. This now appears to be the norm. Many feel this is due to it catching the attention of mainstream culture. It has also left many veterans feeling disenfranchised from the event.
What Matt says this has done is caused an increase in what is known as regional Burns. These are smaller Burning Man-style events that take place around the country. This started with an event in Texas called Burning Flipside, organized by Burners (the self-applied name for people who attend Burning Man) completely separate from the main organization. The idea spread, and Burners in other places formed organizations to put on their own, similar event in their area. It has even spread to other countries.
They started as events that allowed Burners to have the Burning Man experience if they couldn’t make it to the main Burning Man event. Now, in the wake of increased difficulty in getting to the main event, some Burners are turning to the regional Burns as their main outlet and forgoing the main event all together.
As Matt explained this too me I saw clear parallels with the comic conventions. In 2008 San Diego sold out before the show for the first time ever. The following year the event sold out months ahead of time. By 2011 the event was selling out within hours of tickets becoming available.
Looking at the timeline of Emerald City, you see that it took a major jump in attendance in 2011. So my theory is that because it is becoming impossible for most fans to get tickets to San Diego they are turning to the other comic conventions. I looked at a few other conventions numbers, and those that I could find generally show attendance jumps around the same time. In the interest of fairness, I want to point out that I have no other data to back up my theory, such as surveys.
One other thing that I have been hearing is that both fans and pros like Emerald City, as it is still focused on comics and related media, where San Diego has branched out to the point where it is really a media con focused on TV and movies, be they genre or not. This gives Emerald City and the other regional shows an advantage in reputation.
If I am correct you are going to see growth at other comic cons continue. This does have another issue that needs to be considered: the fact that Emerald City itself sold out this year. Selling out a week or so before the show isn’t too bad, as it did give fans plenty of opportunity to get tickets. But what happens next year? After all, it took a couple of years before the San Diego sell outs were counted in minutes instead of months.
Part of the answer is expansion. This can take two forms. The first is actual space. Right now both San Diego and Emerald City have maxed out their venues. In the case of San Diego, there is always the option of moving to another city with a bigger venue, but pressure from the city and reluctance by the convention committee has prevented that through at least 2015. Emerald City could still use space in nearby hotels if they can negotiate with them. Other than that, there are not a lot of other options for the Seattle show, as it wouldn’t make sense for them to move.
On the upside, Emerald City is exploring the other expansion option, starting a secondary show. Staff from Emerald City are involved in the promotion of a sister show in Portland Oregon called Rose City Comic Con in September. Originally a separate show, Rose City has teamed up with Emerald City to help the show grow. This is a good move, as Rose City is still small but has potential. It is also far enough away from Emerald City both in distance and time of year, to offer up the convention experience without cannibalizing the Seattle show.
Overall this kind of growth is good for geek culture. It shows that there is enough interest to support multiple shows and that the culture is thriving.
In fact the only downside is for San Diego. As the smaller shows grow, more people will not bother with San Diego. At some point this could result in fan abandonment. While not certain by any means it could damage and even potentially kill off the show. This is also a danger that Burning man could face.
Clearly the lesson here is to manage growth. A challenge when there is so much demand. I will be very curious to see what happens to all of these shows in the next year.